i used to wonder about this when i was still a dub: since they believe the industrialized world is going to be destroyed and the entire earth will be one big garden, exactly what kind of standard of living do they think they will have?
while they might be able to scavenge, say, a microwave oven or washing machine; and they might be able to figure out how to generate electricity, eventually all of these things will wear out and they'll be back in an early 18th century type of life.
people of that time and earlier who enjoyed a high standard of living employed armies of servants to do the dirty work, but since equality will reign in the ns, everyone will have to toil like a slave just to maintain the basics.. or do they think that big j will magically power their washing machines and water pumps and all the stuff that makes modern living so comfortable?.
So if I build a machine to grind grain faster than by hand I can't barter my services for carrots or potatoes that my neighbor is good at growing.
And, plese don't ever get the idea of constructing some kind of device that turns that grinder for you (like a water or a windmill maybe).
You risk going down a familiar dangerous path
the baptism questions since 1985 involve agreeing to be associated with god's spirit directed organization.
it was taught that god directed the organization through the anointed remnant on earth who were know as the faithful and discreet slave.
it was claimed that getting baptized involved agreeing to follow the direction of this anointed group.. now, the governing body claims the be the faithful and discreet slave.
This implied acceptance of the anointed as the group that God was using.
Correct. Anointed as a group. Group size undefined. Varying through the years, even anticipated to dwindle after 1975 as a sure sign that the end is nearing.
Well, it just dwindled down to 8. Isn't the end even closer?
Look, we can play sematics all day, the fact is they don't give 2 $hits what we think. And please don't try using logic or solid reasoning here
the baptism questions since 1985 involve agreeing to be associated with god's spirit directed organization.
it was taught that god directed the organization through the anointed remnant on earth who were know as the faithful and discreet slave.
it was claimed that getting baptized involved agreeing to follow the direction of this anointed group.. now, the governing body claims the be the faithful and discreet slave.
I see no contradiction.
The pledge was to the Org, not to the FDS. Internal workings are irrelevant.
Don't get me wrong, I am all for it to be an issue, but as I see it, it is not......
i used to wonder about this when i was still a dub: since they believe the industrialized world is going to be destroyed and the entire earth will be one big garden, exactly what kind of standard of living do they think they will have?
while they might be able to scavenge, say, a microwave oven or washing machine; and they might be able to figure out how to generate electricity, eventually all of these things will wear out and they'll be back in an early 18th century type of life.
people of that time and earlier who enjoyed a high standard of living employed armies of servants to do the dirty work, but since equality will reign in the ns, everyone will have to toil like a slave just to maintain the basics.. or do they think that big j will magically power their washing machines and water pumps and all the stuff that makes modern living so comfortable?.
Among the many inconveniences (by modern standards) that seem to be, ahem, imminent in the new system, there are a host of other far more dangerous things that will unleash havoc if left unattended....
Lile this one for example..
here is my sweet survival plan, post jw life!
...yet another part of my healing process...yes healing is g o o d.... .
btw, it feels so great to not have to hide and to able to put my picture up anywhere i feel like!.
Dude, she is smiling...
That's ALWAYS a good thing
i wonder if the wt or jw's in general would consider paul to be a member of the "faithful and discreet slave.
he wrote a good deal of the christian greek scriptures.
surely he would be considered one who was "dispensing food at the proper time" would he not?.
I would love to ask a JW this when they hear of the new understanding!
It would be more fun to ask them now BEFORE they know about it. Maybe just hypotetically. Their guard will be down, or they may say that the GB would NEVER equate themselves with the FDS...
Then a few monts later you let them eat crow....
perhaps this has been covered .. i didn't see it.. december km (thanks atlantis http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/239632/1/2012-2013-literature-request-form-2012-december-kingdom-ministry-2012-october-3-boe ).
page 5. send an article or a publication to someone.
you know: attach a downloaded pdf or.
....on the other hand....
Placing way more magazines and having a stale or declining membership just tells you volumes about the "fine spiritual food"....
now that the "faithful & discreet slave class" has become essentially the governing body since 1919, almost every publication is obsolete and useless!
(i know, they are useless)..... the fds doctrine is a core teaching unique to jehovah's witnesses and now i believe they will have to change all of their understandings that are recorded in the revelation climax book, ezekiel books---every prophetic book written by the society!.
...use all the kindergarden logic you seem fit bibiyan (no need to apologize) ...the reality is that 'change' has been implemented...much as
it has before AND will be...(i'm assuming much to your chagrin...)
Much to my chagrin...or much to the chagrin of the thousands (may they rest in peace) who knew for a fact that they will see the end of this system of things in their lifetime...
Some 'change' we are talkin...
Logic and pre-school references aside, the harsh reality is that this is the next bold LIE dispensed by people who have no iota of reason and right to be determining the lifestyle of 7 million others....Like it or not.
May I ask you a touchy question: Do you, personally believe that the end will come within your lifetime?
now that the "faithful & discreet slave class" has become essentially the governing body since 1919, almost every publication is obsolete and useless!
(i know, they are useless)..... the fds doctrine is a core teaching unique to jehovah's witnesses and now i believe they will have to change all of their understandings that are recorded in the revelation climax book, ezekiel books---every prophetic book written by the society!.
Sorry bro, kindergarten level logic says that if what you claim to have been "right" is negated by something else that is now "right", that first "right" must have been "wrong".
But I forget, logic is a nono in JW land....
perhaps this has been covered .. i didn't see it.. december km (thanks atlantis http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/239632/1/2012-2013-literature-request-form-2012-december-kingdom-ministry-2012-october-3-boe ).
page 5. send an article or a publication to someone.
you know: attach a downloaded pdf or.
Can't Satan alter some of that PDF info, while it is making its ways through the intewebs?
Just asking.. you wouldn't send a truckfull of "Christian" literature through, say Saudi Arabia these days, would you?
